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Sunday, November 16, 2008

Chicken Rights

I took at least a hundred photos at the anti-Proposition 8 rally on the steps of City Hall yesterday. It was a peaceful part of a nationwide protest. The sign in the photo above refers to Proposition 2, which passed.

I think I'll let the signs do the talking.
In Pasadena, 57% voted no on Proposition 8. I love this town.

27 comments:

Ted Thompson said...

...and people wonder why I'm a misanthrope...

*facepalm*

Jilly said...

Well, good on Prop 2, I'm all for animal rights - best of course if we don't eat 'em in the first place!

Do you have a rule in America, as in France, were homosexual couples can go to the Mairie and 'pacs' their relationship so they get exactly the same rights as married couples? It's not a marriage as such but a safeguard of rights and a registration of their relationship. Google PACS. (pacte civile de la solidarite).

Jilly said...

Sorry for my typo... I meant to write ---'as in France, WHERE homosexual couples'...etc

Virginia said...

It's a damn shame is all I have to say.
V

Sharon said...

I am glad to see that there are protests all over the country.

lynn said...

That's interesting Petrea, but how is the fire situation? It seems terrible on the news.

Anonymous said...

Oh shit, really?
I was afraid it would come to this - chickens get to marry! - just not this fast.

I figured kissing cousins would be next asking for marriage rights before chickens.

Petrea said...

Ted, you're too funny to be a real misanthrope. But you make a good occasional cynic.

Jilly, I think this is part of what's so hotly contended. "Civic Union" is considered much the same as marriage here. Some states may have it, though. I believe California did until the Supreme Court ruled marriage was legal. Does anyone know? Please set me straight if you do.

Virginia, shouldn't you be on a plane to Paris?

I'm glad it made the news, Sharon. The fires nearly pre-empted it. And the fires are more urgent, as they have to be taken care of NOW. The question of equal rights isn't going away.

Lynn, the smell of smoke is very strong and if we get out in the open we can see the sky is thick with it. We're not in a position to see flames here. Perhaps we would if we climbed a high peak. John and I live in a neighborhood with many streets. He assures me that there's enough asphalt around to stop any brush fire before it got to us and I hope he's right.

Anonymous, I think chickens got the right to vote? I'm not really up on these things. I'm pretty sure kissing cousins already have the right to marry in some states.

lynn said...

Oh I hope he's right too, Petrea. I think of my actress friend every time the news comes on. xx

Pascal Jim said...

Every time the subject of Chickens arises, I ask the Question:

Should the NO on Abortion Folks eat the unborn????



Ms. P. this is meant as humor......

marley said...

The sign in the last photo says it all.

Eric Salsbery said...

Nice shots today Petrea... I went to the demonstration in Salt Lake City yesterday and took over a 1000 pictures.
I will be posting a few tomorrow.

Cafe Observer said...

Today a friend & I were just discussing the best fried chicken around. Please let us do a taste test before you extend any more rights to them! No one, especially chickens, should have as many rights as we dogs.
My friend says she loves Louisiana Chicken in Altadena, of all places. So, I just need a little more time to get my teeth in more of them.

Petrea said...

Okay, so maybe my double-entendre title didn't quite work. But I got your joke, Pascal Jim!

Eric, if you think of it, would you remind me tomorrow? I don't want to miss your shots. Salt Lake City especially!

Trish said...

petrea---great shots and thank you for covering the peaceful rally.

jilly---there is no Nationwide union allowed---thanks for DOMA passed more than 12 years ago. Each state may decide whether gays can marry and it is NOT something that must be carried over state lines. A marriage in CA does not have to be recognized in Nevada. There is a Domestic Partner Registry in the State of California, but is it NOT nationally recognized and is NOT a marriage, in many ways.

I don't know who came up with the "chickens have more rights than I do in this state" but I keep hearing it and giggling.

Christie said...

They asked the voters of California and they answered. If Prop 8 had been defeated, you would have said how well "democracy" works. (BTW, we don't live in a democracy, we live in a republic. Just a little personal rant there!!) This is the way our republic works -- the people vote and we live with the decisions that we make as a group. Some of those decisions we may not agree with, and some of them we may.

Pascal Jim said...

How strange, why just the other day, while reading, again, the Constitution of the State of California, I came across that damn pesky phrase about "equal rights".....

Vanda said...

I wouldn't exactly say it is a great victory for democracy when mormons from Utah are spending 20 million dollars to push this bill through.

Anyway it's not over. This is a civil rights issue. In 1962 there was still a law in 15 states that forbid whites to marry non-whites.

USelaine said...

The Christian Science Monitor published a very interesting commentary by a teacher of law in Pennsylvania, about how our system of constitutions are designed to protect minorities from the oppressions of majorities. That's why constitutional amendments take far more than simple majority votes to be changed.

See the CSM commentary here. The fears and superstitions about homosexual marriage having any kind of effect on hetero marriages are slowly going away. The gap in public opinion is narrowing. Sexuality is inborn, not indoctrinated.

USelaine said...

Why does the woman with the first sign look so familiar? Was she a carpenter on Trading Spaces?

Eric Salsbery said...

Christie: Vanda nailed it... the people in 15 southern states spoke in 1962. What if people just accepted the decision of the majority?
What if the people accepted, without protest, the laws that said women could not vote?
Or the laws that allowed corporal punishment in schools?
The list of unjust laws over turned is long.
Prop 8 is unjust simply because it discriminates against a minority group. once the passion, fear, anger and bitterness is removed from the debate there is nothing left but discrimination.

Petrea said...

Yeah, there have even been laws that allowed husbands to beat wives and children. We make progress slowly in America, but we make it. One of our fundamental rights has always been the right to assemble for peaceful protest.

City Hall and the Pasadena Police were helpful and kind on Saturday. At at least five different churches were represented among the speakers and many more among the protesters (including a contingent from Fuller Theological Seminary). Not to mention that the protesters were of all stripes: straight, gay, young, old, single, married, all colors, families, denominations, atheists, etc.

I didn't recognize the woman, Elaine, but she was happy to pose with her sign and she has a smile good enough for TV.

Petrea said...

For an excellent post on this subject, check out theskyisbiginpasadena. Ben Wideman is our other Pasadena daily photo blogger and a Fuller Theological Seminary student. He was there shooting photos Saturday, and his post takes an even-handed approach. Apparently there's a great deal of discussion about the gay marriage rights issue at Fuller.

USelaine said...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came...

Petrea said...

Thank you for that, E. John had told me the sign wasn't an original, but I failed to look it up. You did my legwork. Or fingerwork, as the case may be.

Chuck Pefley said...

Wonderful statements. Wonderful juxtaposition of signs, people and structures. Very powerful. Thanks, Petrea.

Petrea said...

Thank you, Chuck.