tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1067046564433930606.post7396214130307522497..comments2023-10-25T02:14:11.431-07:00Comments on Living Vicuriously, aka Pasadena Daily Photo, has moved.: Our Heritage, the Right to VotePetrea Burchardhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13043950465171821852noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1067046564433930606.post-75598719638357405252011-10-16T14:29:55.949-07:002011-10-16T14:29:55.949-07:00Thanks for the good info, Chas!Thanks for the good info, Chas!Petrea Burchardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13043950465171821852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1067046564433930606.post-85602054044813539212011-10-16T10:48:44.875-07:002011-10-16T10:48:44.875-07:00The house in Garvanza has a few histories to it. ...The house in Garvanza has a few histories to it. One fact is that Wilbur McClure (an engineer of the Hoover Dam) was a prospector in Garvanza and sold the existing property to Cora Scott Pond Pope and Anna H. Shaw. I research the deed with historian Charles Fisher and found this information in the log books in Norwalk as the sale was around 1886. So this house is now standing on this parcel and looks to be around 1886. We are still trying to connect the dots as to Cora and Anna building this house. Anna took over the Suffragette movement in the US from Susan B. Anthony. And Cora did the "Pageants" telling the tales of women in the movement. A major find indeed.chasmillerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02044414219987565987noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1067046564433930606.post-55501950575514643632010-06-27T21:29:36.279-07:002010-06-27T21:29:36.279-07:00Margaret, I think you'll like the exhibit. It&...Margaret, I think you'll like the exhibit. It's small, just a couple of rooms, and it requires some reading and thinking. But you like to read and think, and you know so much of the history already.Petrea Burchardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13043950465171821852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1067046564433930606.post-6940467924653934512010-06-27T14:57:31.561-07:002010-06-27T14:57:31.561-07:00Did you know California women actually did get the...Did you know California women actually did get the vote in 1913? What I love about the suffragists is that they fought for almost 70 years to get the national right to vote. Some women never got to see it, but they kept fighting. Sometimes there were doldrums, sometimes it was very chaotic, but they kept going through it all. It's good perspective. And whenever I feel to lazy to go to the polls, I remember that that it took almost 70 years for me to take my one minute in the booth, and then I get up and go.Margarethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08668487489667818687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1067046564433930606.post-84625761087799651842010-06-24T07:36:30.610-07:002010-06-24T07:36:30.610-07:00Please articulate the Bob Dylan rule for us, J. I ...Please articulate the Bob Dylan rule for us, J. I might not get it right.<br /><br />Bellis, you are so right. Due to the confusing way ballot measures are worded, one has to read up on them to know what they mean, and pay close attention to who's paying to put them on the ballot. And candidates will say whatever it takes to get elected, so one has to look at their record (and who's endorsing them) to decide whom to vote for.<br /><br />Hello Support Heritage Square: Can you tell us more about the house in Garvanza? Sounds intriguing.<br /><br />What a small world, eh, Chieftess? Natalie said she's on the board of the Costumers Guild West but she spends more time at Heritage Square!<br /><br />USElaine, what a travesty. It's not like women have only just begun making a living. We've only just begun having a say in what happens to the money we make.Petrea Burchardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13043950465171821852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1067046564433930606.post-49025977450777387052010-06-23T23:08:50.935-07:002010-06-23T23:08:50.935-07:00This is marvelous to see. As you noted, Petrea, so...This is marvelous to see. As you noted, Petrea, so much has changed just in our short lives. When I was a kid, women could only get bank credit by having a male relative co-sign for it. Self-determination was a step far beyond the vote, but that vote had to come first.USelainehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15551995221350532168noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1067046564433930606.post-17687825233214136602010-06-23T22:58:26.947-07:002010-06-23T22:58:26.947-07:00Well I'll be!!! I've known Natalie for a ...Well I'll be!!! I've known Natalie for a number of years!!! Her hubby and the Hubman worked together for many years in LA...<br />That's only one of many costumes Natalie has made. She's an awesome seamstress, a lovely lady, and a kick to walk around the Heritage Square with!!!TheChieftesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00153059825142977202noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1067046564433930606.post-56524407884668523632010-06-23T21:53:52.297-07:002010-06-23T21:53:52.297-07:00Petrea - thanks for the great post. I hope everyon...Petrea - thanks for the great post. I hope everyone gets a chance to stop by and look at the exhibit, which comes with a tour of the historic structures. Those of you who live in the Arroyo, be sure to check out one particular story of a house in Garvanza (near South Pasadena) that it was just discovered has a fascinating history all its own.support heritage squarehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06163942964890480158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1067046564433930606.post-64343325042153374212010-06-23T21:42:09.877-07:002010-06-23T21:42:09.877-07:00One of the reasons women weren't given the vot...One of the reasons women weren't given the vote earlier was that the poor dears wouldn't be well-informed enough to make a reasoned choice. But there were lots of ignorant men as well in those days. Still are - both sexes. Voting takes time and a degree of independent thought. It's a big responsibility.Bellishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10168550139269893109noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1067046564433930606.post-52933822802796355252010-06-23T21:35:06.663-07:002010-06-23T21:35:06.663-07:00To be specific: women have always had the right to...To be specific: women have always had the right to vote, but they were prevented from exercising that right. <br /><br />Some rights derive from nature (are you paying attention, Mr. Jefferson?). Hence the outrage we feel at the memory of the suffrage movement; the threat of violence divorced women from their social franchise. Everybody knows the Bob Dylan Rule applies.John Sandelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08149954535616537207noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1067046564433930606.post-57241413847507360152010-06-23T21:33:21.914-07:002010-06-23T21:33:21.914-07:00PA, I like the Autry too and it's been far too...PA, I like the Autry too and it's been far too long since I've been there.<br /><br />It's amazing to me, Amy, that even when I was in high school (which wasn't <i>that</i> long ago, we had almost no sports programs for girls. It just never occurred to anyone.Petrea Burchardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13043950465171821852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1067046564433930606.post-33214331817772673512010-06-23T21:08:27.084-07:002010-06-23T21:08:27.084-07:00Less than a hundred years, wow.
But then again, i...Less than a hundred years, wow.<br /><br />But then again, it shocks me to watch the reasonably close to life mimicries of Madmen and realize that was only 50 years ago. <br /><br />Women have come a long way. <br /><br />Great post. <br /><br />I covet her costume.Amyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13302700145350385530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1067046564433930606.post-74775031190348335512010-06-23T21:05:25.213-07:002010-06-23T21:05:25.213-07:00I'd go for the illustrations.
(note to self...I'd go for the illustrations. <br /><br /><br />(note to self: get ye to the Autry and Tim Hawkins exhibitions)<br /><br />John Doe and Exene/Judith Freeman....I love that museumPasadena Adjacenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09031325790590238246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1067046564433930606.post-85310706174705082292010-06-23T20:28:13.387-07:002010-06-23T20:28:13.387-07:00The table at the Hiker's link can be sorted by...The table at the Hiker's link can be sorted by year, age or country. It's interesting to see it in all its variations.<br /><br />Shanna, we've gone through a lot of changes even in my short lifetime. And from the sound of the music I heard on a car radio at the end of my block yesterday, we are still in need of change.Petrea Burchardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13043950465171821852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1067046564433930606.post-26818645509717231462010-06-23T19:50:52.278-07:002010-06-23T19:50:52.278-07:00I have read much of a book that Jim actually bough...I have read much of a book that Jim actually bought for himself about more recent rights and changes: <br /><br />WHEN EVERYTHING CHANGED<br />The Amazing Journey of American women From 1960 to the Present<br /><br />The author is Gail Collins.<br /><br />I remember and was early in this change. It reads as really true to me. <br />Can you believe that before the 20th century, females were not allowed to take Life Drawing. So I grew up to be a Prof. of Life Drawing - little Southern me , here in big bad Los Angeles. That's change.Shannahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01608168607510299123noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1067046564433930606.post-85116512880135668972010-06-23T18:06:29.804-07:002010-06-23T18:06:29.804-07:00If you scroll down, you'll see how various cou...If you scroll down, you'll see how various countries shake out. Interesting to see those that were early and late to the party.<br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women's_suffrageAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1067046564433930606.post-46448567425762960522010-06-23T12:33:08.463-07:002010-06-23T12:33:08.463-07:00ginab: OK, I found it. Thanks, Anon Anon. The Wik...ginab: OK, I found it. Thanks, Anon Anon. The Wikipedia discussion link is extremely illuminating!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1067046564433930606.post-75466249424080639482010-06-23T12:19:58.611-07:002010-06-23T12:19:58.611-07:00Truly a domino effect-- no wonder the powers were ...Truly a domino effect-- no wonder the powers were worried--Desireehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00331108175137673106noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1067046564433930606.post-1859125869740345132010-06-23T12:12:10.345-07:002010-06-23T12:12:10.345-07:00ginab: I would like to read the discussion, but I ...ginab: I would like to read the discussion, but I can only get to http://www.ngfl-cymru.org.uk/eng/index-new.htm. Where do I go from there?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1067046564433930606.post-84623359211218426022010-06-23T12:09:11.560-07:002010-06-23T12:09:11.560-07:00The "suffragist" vs. "suffragette&q...The "suffragist" vs. "suffragette" discussion turns fascinating with that link, Anonymous. I suggest you all read it, it's short and very interesting.<br /><br />I held out, but I'll go back and change one of my "suffragettes" to a "suffragist."Petrea Burchardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13043950465171821852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1067046564433930606.post-2091075429086112692010-06-23T11:17:11.947-07:002010-06-23T11:17:11.947-07:00Regarding Suffragist vs. Suffragette, its not so s...Regarding Suffragist vs. Suffragette, its not so simple. "Suffragette" was used originally in the diminutive form for those who opposed the movement, but was eventually usurped by those who wanted "action" not just words. Visit http://www.ngfl-cymru.org.uk/vtc/20050422/History/Keystage4/protestan/votesforw/suffragis/ for a brief discription. Even if you go to that post on Wikipedia, turn to the discussion portal, and you will see that its not so straitforward.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1067046564433930606.post-88178456305580823012010-06-23T10:50:13.477-07:002010-06-23T10:50:13.477-07:00I agree with Tash: fantastic post. Thanks for brin...I agree with Tash: fantastic post. Thanks for bringing these exhibits to my attention. Love the "Votes for Women" posters and Natalie's dress.Susan Campisihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07255628787592008617noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1067046564433930606.post-53353309597769403182010-06-23T09:27:37.804-07:002010-06-23T09:27:37.804-07:00I'm listening to a bio of FDR...kind of dry wh...I'm listening to a bio of FDR...kind of dry what with all the political campaigns, etc...but it certainly puts the time in perspective - including the battle for women's right to vote.<br />Great picture - fanatstic post.Tashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18098034737961019226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1067046564433930606.post-65778115207916107322010-06-23T08:45:34.677-07:002010-06-23T08:45:34.677-07:00SLW: I came of age to vote in 1968. When other peo...SLW: I came of age to vote in 1968. When other people my age were looking forward to their first "legal" beer, I was looking forward to being able to take part in the election. I volunteered for Bobby Kennedy at a campaign reception where he appeared in Indiana, but as I did not live in Indy, I missed the moving speech he gave to the crowd the night Martin Luther King, Jr was assassinated. I watched that campaign eagerly, wanting my first vote to Mean Something, and was plunged into the awful reality as my First Vote was taken away by a gunman in a hotel hallway. Well, you know the rest. Of course, I still vote, I still hope, but always with the stark confusion of the black and white images I saw on my TV that night in the back of my mind.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1067046564433930606.post-47660347531685420182010-06-23T08:21:29.635-07:002010-06-23T08:21:29.635-07:00Thanks, Ginab. I thought about that, and linked to...Thanks, Ginab. I thought about that, and linked to the Wikipedia article in the post. Because the article said "active members of the movement began to reclaim the word, the term became a label without negative connotations," I decided to go ahead and use "suffragette."Petrea Burchardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13043950465171821852noreply@blogger.com