tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1067046564433930606.post2233664142176624388..comments2023-10-25T02:14:11.431-07:00Comments on Living Vicuriously, aka Pasadena Daily Photo, has moved.: Water ControlPetrea Burchardhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13043950465171821852noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1067046564433930606.post-47354304140136963162009-10-24T09:20:00.844-07:002009-10-24T09:20:00.844-07:00Thank you, Joe. I often link to LA Creek Freak.Thank you, Joe. I often link to LA Creek Freak.Petrea Burchardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13043950465171821852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1067046564433930606.post-20950026543798257702009-10-23T18:01:21.947-07:002009-10-23T18:01:21.947-07:00Creek Freaks happy to hear you're listening to...Creek Freaks happy to hear you're listening to us and praising us here. We'll work to keep inspiring you as much as we can.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08165120283269768101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1067046564433930606.post-78865413330391993992009-10-22T05:29:33.668-07:002009-10-22T05:29:33.668-07:00Preventive measures are taken for water control as...Preventive measures are taken for water control as There was not much last week. It is good to see the dam build on the public road.acai berryhttp://www.vitabits.co.uk/antioxidantnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1067046564433930606.post-61894480026112474532009-10-21T22:17:31.947-07:002009-10-21T22:17:31.947-07:00It took me this long to get J's cataract/spect...It took me this long to get J's cataract/spectacle pun.<br /><br />Interesting stuff, Bellis. I wish I knew.<br /><br />More questions than answers, but Des is right, eau courant, you people. Merci.Petrea Burchardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13043950465171821852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1067046564433930606.post-92054059747373478442009-10-21T19:38:45.058-07:002009-10-21T19:38:45.058-07:00Having seen PIO's post, this is really timely ...Having seen PIO's post, this is really timely - and interesting.Margarethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08668487489667818687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1067046564433930606.post-20516098764196733402009-10-21T13:27:15.729-07:002009-10-21T13:27:15.729-07:00Eau yes, Dez is so right. I'm following this -...Eau yes, Dez is so right. I'm following this -- I want to know -- do we save rainwater, can we save it? I've often heard nothing matters but the snowpack.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1067046564433930606.post-15768177420977624932009-10-21T13:20:47.118-07:002009-10-21T13:20:47.118-07:00kewl! And, your readers are so, hum
eau courant!
...kewl! And, your readers are so, hum<br /><br />eau courant!<br />(translation: up on their water)Desireehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00331108175137673106noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1067046564433930606.post-19976959999698899122009-10-21T11:14:12.493-07:002009-10-21T11:14:12.493-07:00Greg, the Hahamongna sinking basins are not debris...Greg, the Hahamongna sinking basins are not debris basins, but maybe there was too much debris and ash coming down from the burn areas for the water to be stored? The dam under the Colorado Street Bridge didn't hold back any water, as the channel downstream of it was pretty full - but only on the day AFTER it stopped raining. Does it take that long for the water to come out of the mountains? Wow.Here's a good chart: http://tinyurl.com/yj22my9Bellishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10168550139269893109noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1067046564433930606.post-72657478700982109202009-10-21T11:00:02.630-07:002009-10-21T11:00:02.630-07:00Thanks for the insights, Greg. I don't know ab...Thanks for the insights, Greg. I don't know about dumping in the ocean, though. Some of the debris is logs, grasses, natural stuff. But a lot of it is plastic and trash.<br /><br />I have some photos of last spring's debris at Devil's Gate. I'll see if I can put together a chronology of the debris collection for tomorrow.Petrea Burchardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13043950465171821852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1067046564433930606.post-37023823125018348012009-10-21T10:11:21.909-07:002009-10-21T10:11:21.909-07:00That's a "control house" and a "...That's a "control house" and a "gauging station".<br /><br />My friend Darryl invited me to the control house at Santa Anita Dam on the night of January 8th - 9th, 2005. That was the height of the big "Pineapple Express" storm. He can monitor by computer what all the other dams are doing. Devil's Gate was getting an "inflow" of around 2,500 cubic feet per second. For comparison, Santa Anita was getting 1,300cf/s; Cogswell Dam north-east of Mt Wilson was getting 4,000cf/s; and the big San Gabriel Dam in Azusa Canyon was getting 25,000cf/s! I know the figures went up after I left at 1 or 2 am - the storm peaked around 3 am. That is just way to much water at once to save, and in fact, if the dams have water going over the spillways, it means that they cannot hold any more water.<br /><br />Our dams are mostly for flood control, not for water use. A big problem they are having is that most are getting filled with debris, which reduces the volume needed for flood events. But digging out just one dam is a major (and expensive) event. There are ecological concerns in the wildlands where the dams are located, plus where do you put the debris? and what subsequent environment will it affect. Also, nobody wants the dirt in their neighborhood. I think they should truck the debris to a barge and dump it in the ocean, where Mother Nature was sending it anyway.Greg Sweethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07086407464173685145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1067046564433930606.post-90896124863912016982009-10-21T09:17:52.834-07:002009-10-21T09:17:52.834-07:00A veritable cataract—or do I need new a new specta...A veritable cataract—or do I need new a new spectacle?John Sandelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08149954535616537207noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1067046564433930606.post-28742996418951625752009-10-21T08:34:10.583-07:002009-10-21T08:34:10.583-07:00I think that big storm was spring of 2005, am I ri...I think that big storm was spring of 2005, am I right? I wasn't living here then, but I heard of it. To me four years is a long time to go without enough rain. We've seen water behind the dam--we see it each spring. But I've never seen it up that high.<br /><br />Bellis, they can stop the water at the Parker Mayberry Bridge (under the Colorado Street Bridge). But did they? I don't know.Petrea Burchardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13043950465171821852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1067046564433930606.post-31971391630055680202009-10-21T08:06:27.322-07:002009-10-21T08:06:27.322-07:00That huge waterfall a few years ago was quite a sp...That huge waterfall a few years ago was quite a spectacle! But this time, I couldn't understand why they let the water go to waste like this - once it's gone through Devil's Gate dam, it flows straight to the ocean in a concrete channel (bar two small gaps) and all that precious fresh water is lost. Why wasn't it diverted to the sinking ponds in Hahamongna and stored below ground? If anyone knows how the Arroyo Seco water is managed, I'd love to hear from them. I'm sure the water folks know what they're doing!Bellishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10168550139269893109noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1067046564433930606.post-41564496128371156972009-10-21T07:51:17.914-07:002009-10-21T07:51:17.914-07:00Oh, but don't you remember out big storm a few...Oh, but don't you remember out big storm a few years back? Crowds gathered on the bridge (I was among them) to watch and feel the water surging by. It wasn't just a stream that time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1067046564433930606.post-22103438798296354442009-10-21T01:53:32.388-07:002009-10-21T01:53:32.388-07:00That is good to see, and hopefully there's mor...That is good to see, and hopefully there's more where that came from!Shell Sherreehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00477843748741838608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1067046564433930606.post-2992297383022030642009-10-21T00:33:14.738-07:002009-10-21T00:33:14.738-07:00Shot gives me the vertigoo …Shot gives me the <i>vertigoo</i> …John Sandelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08149954535616537207noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1067046564433930606.post-12952466839771715702009-10-21T00:18:15.114-07:002009-10-21T00:18:15.114-07:00Thanks, P. Now I know why you don't comment mu...Thanks, P. Now I know why you don't comment much. All this time I thought it was because you were busier than a shutterbug.Cafe Pasadenahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12366911652838118347noreply@blogger.com