I know at least one person who can tell us where today's mystery object is, but can anyone tell us what it is? What I'd especially like to know, once I find out what it is, is how old it is. Whatever it is, I like to think it's an antique.
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This does not look as though it opens, so it is not a water manhole. it says LA Engineers, so my guess is that it is some sort of survey marker.
ReplyDeleteCool. It looks pretty old. Must be some kind of bolt type raised bench mark. But strange there is not more info on it.
ReplyDeleteI'm just glad it's not a landmine.
http://www.waymarking.com/waymarks/WMCJ19_LA_CO_ENGR_Survey_Marker
ReplyDeleteI'm going to go with Julie on this. I think it looks like some kind of survey marker.
ReplyDeleteYay! I know this one. Julie, Dina and Speedway are all spot on. It's what we call over here a "benchmark." In England we mark permanent survey levels with a line and an arrow incised in stone or brickwork on the side of buildings but over there you get these cute little survey markers concreted into the subsoil and poking up just enough to place a surveying staff on top.
ReplyDeleteFinally I've found something useful for all my years training as an architect.
As to where it is, and how old, I'll leave that to you locals to figure out.
Well, I'm glad I didn't need to guess this one, as I had no clue. The things I learn here, Petrea...
ReplyDeleteAround here, the markers are made of concrete which has an X or a cross mark incised in the top to mark the center.
ReplyDeleteLooks like a pipe, but with the engineer insignia, it probably is a survey marker.
ReplyDeletea government addition to nature with a purpose
ReplyDeleteIt does look like a pipe to me, because it's poking up out of the ground and it's only about an inch in radius. I suppose could be a survey marker, as I do believe Dive knows his stuff. But it's a bit outside of town on one of the hiking trails.
ReplyDeleteIf it's a survey marker it's at least from before the 1970's, when this area was saved from the hands of developers. (That's a clue to the locals.)
I just found Ted's comment, a link, which Blogger had though twas Spam. It's a link to a waymarking site which shows a photo of a survey marker that looks a lot like what I've got here. It's confusing, though, and it makes me think my photo might be confusing, because the link doesn't tell us how big the object is and it looks like it could be rather large.
ReplyDeleteTed, do you have any idea how big it is?
Engineers don't grow on trees—they come from the earth. Push the button. STAND BACK.
ReplyDeleteI have not idea but it's nice to philosophize about this mystery object.
ReplyDeleteDon't you just love it when something as practical as this is actually rather beautiful. Seems everyone knows what it is. I can tell you that my land is marked with an old bit of stick! Nothing like this. Nice choice for today.
ReplyDeleteI think it's the end of a very long rod that stops the foothills slipping into Altadena. If it was a surveying waymark, there'd be a slot to fit the surveying instrument in, wouldn't there?
ReplyDeleteI've tried geocaching and it's great fun. There's a site showing all the benchmarks around Pasadena - you have to search for them and tick them off the list.
I don't know, I think John is right. I've never pressed it but it might be a sort of Engineer Jack-In-The-Box.
ReplyDeleteBut Bellis must be right. At least she's got the location, the Altadena foothills.
What is the diameter? If it is about an inch, it is likely a surveyor's mark. The mark does not hold equipment, Bellis, it just a button to mark where the property line is. They are embedded in the sidewalks in my mom's North Hollywood neighborhood.
ReplyDeleteI said radius but I meant diameter. It's about an inch, maybe a little bit more.
ReplyDeleteI checked Ted Thompson's link and found one of our local landmarks, the Soldiers' and Sailors' Monument, listed as a marker. I can't tell whether it's meant to be the monument itself or a "button" like the one in your picture, but will check next week.
ReplyDeleteI gather they're used for orienteering.
AMEN John! ;-)
ReplyDeleteIf it is where I'm thinking, I'd not dismiss the survey marker concept. A lot of that land was surveyed eons ago---many of those pretty mountains you hike upon were considered for ski slopes at one time. Lowe, Baldy, Henninger, Chantry, Red Box, Gabrielino were all surveyed at one point.
The engineer in me is enjoying the 'engineer jack in the box' concept! Great idea, not sure many engineers would hang out on the side of a mountain for that long tho!
This is not that far up. It's on the Sam Merrill Trail long before the two mile marker. Nobody's been skiing there in millennia.
ReplyDeleteSince I don't know what it's for, I have to go with John's Engineer Catapult idea :-)
ReplyDeleteI wonder if it marks the end of LA County and the start of the Angeles National Forest?
ReplyDeleteHa ha, Ms. M!
ReplyDeleteGood thinking, Bellis, it might just. I don't know, however, if it catapults the engineers into, or out of, the forest.
Engineer Jack-In-The-Box - ha! I'm going to find that thing today so I can press the button.
ReplyDeleteKeep your eyes on the trail and don't trip on it!
ReplyDeleteOrganize a Flash launch. Go on-line, find all the buttons. Set a date and time. Send a person to each button and, voila! launch all engineers at once into the sky! Woo Hoo! (Or at least one for each button)
ReplyDeleteThe engineers would love it.
ReplyDeletePetrea---I know no one would ski that far down the hill (well, ok, once in a while there's a dusting that low). But there were survey crews out eons ago for ski slopes and other inhabitant possibilities. Thankfully, the hills were saved from such atrocities! For a long time various folks suggested various plans for homes, resorts etc up in them thar hills. Must have been a real sucky job to "have" to go hiking in the hills for work!
ReplyDeleteand uhm, this engineer isn't too hot on being "launched", but I'd have a wonderful time watching something else be launched instead! I'd be a little concerned at how small that button is and what nooks and crannies it could launch INTO, without, you know, actually getting me off the ground!
ReplyDeleteI can see it now "uhm, ma'am, how did you get this metal object inserted so far in your, uhm, well, body?". "Well, see Doc, it's like this..."
it's a benchamrk.....
ReplyDeletefor surveying...a permanent benchmark would have information engraved on it with a crosshairs...minimum benchmark number but sometimes the elevation too
guess I should have read everyone's comments!
ReplyDeletelove the launch idea :D
Good morning BD. Guess you did!
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